[zeromq-dev] decentralize git with pub/sub

Esa HekmatiZadeh esa.hekmat at gmail.com
Mon Jul 29 07:26:22 CEST 2019

I checked gitlab service today and yes, gitlab also prevent Iranian access.
I'm not familliar with email based patching and development in this style,
also I think C4 requires bug tracking and pull request mechanism.
Harald is right and if you host gitlab yourself then you are free from
rules of hosting services.
It's not a matter if this host located in US, until it doesn't have any
trade. Like Savanneh service

On Mon, 29 Jul 2019, 03:02 Harald Achitz, <harald.achitz at gmail.com> wrote:

> I think when you run gilab your own, you can run it on whatever server you
> want in any country, and can allow access to whom ever you want
> of course, for free hosting you need to follow the rules of the one who
> does the hosting for you
> so there are 2 aspects, the git software, which is git, usermanangment,
> issue tracker, etc...,
> github gitlab bitbucket gitteaGogs, .... the list is rather long
> and the git software hosting, where some have the same name as their
> produces, github gitlab bitbucket,
> so there are companies that provide a hosting service and of you use their
> services and you have to follow the rules of them
> https://git.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/GitHosting
> the problem is, if there is no financial baking, and you are depended on
> free services , the non US options seem to be limited
> I heard / read that kernel devs still use mail ...
> Am So., 28. Juli 2019 um 22:02 Uhr schrieb Benjamin Henrion <
> zoobab at gmail.com>:
>> On Sun, Jul 28, 2019 at 8:48 PM Esa HekmatiZadeh <esa.hekmat at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi Benjamin
>> > Thank you to mention this issue here, actually yesterday GitHub
>> suspended my account because I live in Iran. There are a long list of
>> platforms and even free software websites that are forbidden for countries
>> you have mentioned and I think this is completely against freedom.
>> I just moved myself to Iran for Github software development:
>> https://github.com/zoobab
>> > Gitlab does not ban users from these countries yet, also GItlab is GPL
>> licensed and we can host it ourself in a subdomain, for example,
>> gitlab.zeromq.org but this approach requires extra maintenance and a
>> server to run Gitlab.
>> It seems Gitlab.com is also based in the US.
>> > https://savannah.nongnu.org/ is another option hosted by FSF
>> foundation.
>> Hosted in Fremont, CA, United States.
>> As long as the US has jurisdiction, you are lost.
>> I was looking for friendly countries that do not have trade sanctions
>> with Iran, it seems the US with all its allies (probably in the sense
>> of NATO) have trade sanctions with Iran.
>> Nat Friedman, CEO of Github, seems to say that moving to another
>> country does not matter, as if a foreign company does business with US
>> businesses but also Iranian businesses, it is a target of those US
>> sanctions.
>> What we have to do is to implement cyberspace, where law makers don't
>> have a say. That might be utopic, but the bricks are getting there.
>> ZeroMQ might be one of those bricks.
>> --
>> Benjamin Henrion (zoobab)
>> Email: zoobab at gmail.com
>> Mobile: +32-484-566109
>> Web: http://www.zoobab.com
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>> "In July 2005, after several failed attempts to legalise software
>> patents in Europe, the patent establishment changed its strategy.
>> Instead of explicitly seeking to sanction the patentability of
>> software, they are now seeking to create a central European patent
>> court, which would establish and enforce patentability rules in their
>> favor, without any possibility of correction by competing courts or
>> democratically elected legislators."
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