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[Osiris Pedroso]

Ok, dirty laundry has been cleaned, I feel loved again. 😍
Please keep me in the mail list

 I'll set a goal to make another attempt.
Hopefully I'll have something to show by the time February rolls by.

PS: Luca, I no longer have that file. Thanks for the offer.

On Thu, Sep 27, 2018, 12:48 Luca Boccassi <luca.boccassi at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thu, 2018-09-27 at 06:18 +0200, Osiris Pedroso wrote:
> > Yes, I am sad to say so.
> > The problem is that I never really contributed.
>
> Computer says yes :-)
>
> bluca at precision:~/git/libzmq (master)$ git log --author=Osiris --oneline
> | wc -l
> 13
>
> > I did attempt once in the very beginning when I naively wrote a
> > Windows
> > Office document detailing how to get and build the several ZeroMQ
> > projects
> > in the Windows environment, but my PR was rejected because it
> > contained a
> > file in a DOC format. I remember I spent a day working on it, making
> > sure
> > it was correct and looked good. I was very proud of my first
> > submission...
>
> We talked about this last year - I'm truly sorry you felt that way, but
> again the issue is purely technical and was simply about the file being
> in binary format, which wreaks havoc in git (every time you change even
> one character the file is duplicated in the history, so pretty soon the
> repository size explodes). It's not just .doc - it's any non-text file
> format that can't be accepted in a git repo. Once added, it's forever
> +X MBs in size, and it can never go down.
>
> We talked about of adding a link in the README, and have the file
> hosted elsewhere instead (cloud office 365 I think? Or the wiki? Can't
> recall) to avoid this issue, and you seemed to appreciate the idea at
> the time if I remember correctly?
>
> Would you like to send a PR to get this added?
>
> > Even though the C4 guidelines, which ZeroMQ projects are supposed to
> > adhere, say nothing of restricting Windows related contributions,
> > that in
> > fact seems to me is what happens. Even though most questions on the
> > mailing
> > list seem to come from Windows users, the ZeroMQ developers as a
> > group seem
> > to be Windows bigots.
> >
> > I always wanted to work on Linux, but my career was such that I
> > stayed in
> > Windows for over 30 years (my first 4 years were using AT&T Unix
> > System V,
> > a precursor even to BSD, then Windows).
> >
> > The last couple of years I've watched the mailing list.
> > Last Hackathon I wanted to do something significant. One of the
> > projects
> > Luca Bocassi said we're of interest was using AF sockets in Windows
> > 10, now
> > that this is available. I looked at it, and at the time it was only
> > available on a Window Dev build (it is probably available in Windows
> > 10
> > mainstream now).
> > Bottom line, I did not get anywhere. Plus I had the feeling that if I
> > were
> > to ask any questions it would not be well received by the group,.
> > This
> > discouraged me to pursue it any further.
> >
> > This year my life has changed quite a bit.
> > I have moved to Nürnberg, Germany working for a database company. In
> > addition to starting a new job in a new country, I am learning German
> > which
> > takes all of my free time. And since this company products are Linux
> > based,
> > I am re-learning how to develop in this environment.
> >
> > Funny that now when it would be much cheaper to attend the
> > Hackathons, I
> > have decided that my contributions are not worth it.
> >
> > Now that Microsoft embraced Open Source, making tools such as VSCode
> > (the
> > Windows Development IDE) available as Open Source in all platforms
> > (Linux,
> > MacOS, Windows), it would be a great thing if ZeroMQ could be
> > built/developed in this integrated environment (from my Windowzy
> > point of
> > view), allowing for debugging in any of these platforms in a single
> > way,
> > but I can already hear the cringe of some members just from hearing
> > the
> > proposal.
>
> I think this is a bit too harsh :-) There's plenty of Windows devs
> working on the project - lots of work has happened in the past year,
> for example to make the CMake stuff better, and to have binaries
> available for Windows too online (I think the platform is called
> Conda?).
> For example, you should be able to now use CMake seamlessly from VSCode
> (or any other versions of VS) and get the exact same build results as
> you'd get on *nix.
>
> Also a Windows version of epoll was merged a few months back to make
> internal polling faster and more efficient, as another example. There's
> surely more I forget.
>
> > Although I love the idea of participating in an Open Source project,
> > it is
> > possible that ZeroMQ is not the best fit for my skill set.
> >
> > But thank you for asking, Benjamin.
> > You seem to care, and I appreciate that.
>
> We all care, and hope you'll join us again in Brussels in February - I
> believe it's just 2 train rides away from Nuremberg :-)
>
> > On Wed, Sep 26, 2018, 18:36 Benjamin Henrion <zoobab at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Are we loosing you?
> > >
> > > On Wed, Sep 26, 2018, 17:55 Osiris Pedroso <opedroso at gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
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