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Doron Somech somdoron at gmail.com
Thu Sep 27 12:07:46 CEST 2018

It sad to hear you are leaving us.

Regarding Windows, I'm actually a Windows user, and contributed Windows
stuff to the project. When Pieter asked me to be the BDFL he knew I didn't
have Linux experience. So I think Windows users are welcome.

Also, one of the last thing Pieter did before dying was making sure all
ZeroMQ projects compile on Windows.

NetMQ, which is a port of zeromq to C# first worked only on Windows and
also using IO completion ports. It is now running on Linux as well.

I think Windows users are welcome and I'm actually the proof for that.

Im actually really interested in AF sockets on Windows, which I think will
resolve real security issue with using TCP on same machine, both for zeromq
and NetMQ.

If you I can help with this.

I hope you will reconsider.


On Thu, Sep 27, 2018, 07:21 Osiris Pedroso <opedroso at gmail.com> wrote:

> Yes, I am sad to say so.
> The problem is that I never really contributed.
> I did attempt once in the very beginning when I naively wrote a Windows
> Office document detailing how to get and build the several ZeroMQ projects
> in the Windows environment, but my PR was rejected because it contained a
> file in a DOC format. I remember I spent a day working on it, making sure
> it was correct and looked good. I was very proud of my first submission...
> Even though the C4 guidelines, which ZeroMQ projects are supposed to
> adhere, say nothing of restricting Windows related contributions, that in
> fact seems to me is what happens. Even though most questions on the mailing
> list seem to come from Windows users, the ZeroMQ developers as a group seem
> to be Windows bigots.
> I always wanted to work on Linux, but my career was such that I stayed in
> Windows for over 30 years (my first 4 years were using AT&T Unix System V,
> a precursor even to BSD, then Windows).
> The last couple of years I've watched the mailing list.
> Last Hackathon I wanted to do something significant. One of the projects
> Luca Bocassi said we're of interest was using AF sockets in Windows 10, now
> that this is available. I looked at it, and at the time it was only
> available on a Window Dev build (it is probably available in Windows 10
> mainstream now).
> Bottom line, I did not get anywhere. Plus I had the feeling that if I were
> to ask any questions it would not be well received by the group,. This
> discouraged me to pursue it any further.
> This year my life has changed quite a bit.
> I have moved to Nürnberg, Germany working for a database company. In
> addition to starting a new job in a new country, I am learning German which
> takes all of my free time. And since this company products are Linux based,
> I am re-learning how to develop in this environment.
> Funny that now when it would be much cheaper to attend the Hackathons, I
> have decided that my contributions are not worth it.
> Now that Microsoft embraced Open Source, making tools such as VSCode (the
> Windows Development IDE) available as Open Source in all platforms (Linux,
> MacOS, Windows), it would be a great thing if ZeroMQ could be
> built/developed in this integrated environment (from my Windowzy point of
> view), allowing for debugging in any of these platforms in a single way,
> but I can already hear the cringe of some members just from hearing the
> proposal.
> Although I love the idea of participating in an Open Source project, it is
> possible that ZeroMQ is not the best fit for my skill set.
> But thank you for asking, Benjamin.
> You seem to care, and I appreciate that.
> On Wed, Sep 26, 2018, 18:36 Benjamin Henrion <zoobab at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Are we loosing you?
>> On Wed, Sep 26, 2018, 17:55 Osiris Pedroso <opedroso at gmail.com> wrote:
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