[zeromq-dev] migration 4.1.2 to 4.2.2

Doron Somech somdoron at gmail.com
Mon Mar 13 15:33:24 CET 2017


I'm not sure my PR will solve the 10% decrease...

I will look into it

On Mon, Mar 13, 2017 at 2:45 PM, brunobodin . <brunobodin at gmail.com> wrote:

> So I am probably paying the cost of not having your PR.
>
> BB
>
> On Mon, Mar 13, 2017 at 11:19 AM, Doron Somech <somdoron at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Yes.
>>
>> Also, consider using the wait_all, which should yield better performance.
>>
>> On Mar 13, 2017 10:13 AM, "brunobodin ." <brunobodin at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Doron
>>>
>>> In my test, the timers are not supposed to include the poller creation
>>> time. To be sure, I increased the iteration count, but the result stay the
>>> same (10% increase or so). This run does not include your PR.
>>> Does this PR apply to both the new and old APIs ?
>>>
>>> Bruno
>>>
>>> On Sat, Mar 11, 2017 at 10:03 AM, Doron Somech <somdoron at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Following is a PR that fix the slow performance of zmq_poll
>>>>
>>>> https://github.com/zeromq/libzmq/pull/2364
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 6:30 PM, Doron Somech <somdoron at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> How many iterations in the test? The creation of the zmq poller might
>>>>> slow you down a bit at the begining...
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mar 10, 2017 6:16 PM, "brunobodin ." <brunobodin at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks Doron for the explanation
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I replaced zmq_poll calls in my code, the new API is also easier to
>>>>>> use IMHO :-)
>>>>>> but FYI, I still notice a slight slowdown in my test (about 10%), but
>>>>>> this is far from a unit test so I am not sure this is related to the new
>>>>>> poller
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bruno
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 5:01 PM, Doron Somech <somdoron at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Not sure, the change only introduced and recent version,  I think. I
>>>>>>> will make a pull request tomorrow and you will be able to test it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mar 10, 2017 5:43 PM, "Jake" <jake.cobb at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Do you all think this is related to the Windows performance issue I
>>>>>>>> reported here?:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://github.com/zeromq/libzmq/issues/2328
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -Jake
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 10:36 AM, Doron Somech <somdoron at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> zmq_poll now use zmq_poller internally, but nof efficiently,
>>>>>>>>> because it is being created on every call. This is why you have drop in
>>>>>>>>> performance, I will fix that anyway.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Polling on thread safe sockets works differently, this is why zmp
>>>>>>>>> poller was created. previously zmp poll didnt support thread safe sockets.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Bottom line, zmq poll should be deprecated and zmq poller should
>>>>>>>>> be used.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mar 10, 2017 3:13 PM, "brunobodin ." <brunobodin at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Doron,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I could make a test and it works, thanks !
>>>>>>>>>> is the signaler new in zmq 4.2.2 ? if not, why are the
>>>>>>>>>> performances so différent ?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Regarding thread safe socket, I do not use them yet but may test
>>>>>>>>>> them (probably RADIO/DISH) in a near future. Are there implications between
>>>>>>>>>> poller and thread safe sockets ?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> thanks for your help
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Bruno
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 1:26 PM, Doron Somech <somdoron at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> If you can use zmq_poller it will solve it.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I can make a PR to improve it by making tge creation of the
>>>>>>>>>>> signaler lazy.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Are you using thread safe sockets (SERVER CLIENT ...)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 10, 2017 13:01, "brunobodin ." <brunobodin at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> digging deeper, the issue seems related to the connect/bind of
>>>>>>>>>>>> signaler within the poll function.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 8:46 AM, brunobodin . <
>>>>>>>>>>>> brunobodin at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Luca,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> thanks for you anwser... apparently select is the only method
>>>>>>>>>>>>> available on windows, and is the one used by the appveyor build.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Draft is not enabled.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> still investigating...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bruno
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 9, 2017 at 6:12 PM, Luca Boccassi <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> luca.boccassi at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 2017-03-09 at 17:22 +0100, brunobodin . wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > I am in the process of migrating my application (windows,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> visual 2015) from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > 4.1.2 to 4.2.2
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > The point is that with the new version, polling is now
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _very_ slow, making
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > my app quite unusable.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Any hint or suggestion about what I could check ? The
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> polling method is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > "select", optimization options of the compiler are set, the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> performances of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > the performance tools (inproc_lat, etc) are ok...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > I do not know what to look for next...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Bruno
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Where you using select before as well?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you by any chance building with the DRAFT APIs enabled?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Luca Boccassi
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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