[zeromq-dev] Stable release downloads (was Re: CZMQ "stable" release versioning)
zeromq at ewen.mcneill.gen.nz
Wed Apr 27 10:52:28 CEST 2016
On 25/04/16 21:51, Pieter Hintjens wrote:
> Yes, retiring the deprecated APIs and bumping the major version should
> go together.
It also seems timely to raise where these stable release downloads come
from when a user downloads them.
links to download URLs like:
and download.zeromq.org is:
ewen at ashram:~$ host download.zeromq.org
download.zeromq.org is an alias for virtual.imatix.com.
virtual.imatix.com has address 18.104.22.168
virtual.imatix.com mail is handled by 10 mail-in.imatix.com.
ewen at ashram:~$
and virtual.imatix.com is an alternative name for a VM... that is paid
for by iMatix (ie, by Pieter).
So we'll need to find another place to host these downloads. Personally
I'd like it if _all_ the existing downloads were moved to that new
place, rather than just being abandoned (I've spent too much time last
year/this year trying to track down old code that didn't get carried
along with moves to want to cause that to happen again). That would
also let us potentially make download.zeromq.org point at that new
location, and thus keep existing URLs working.
Currently there are 160 downloadable files on download.zeromq.org,
taking up 194MB of files; so an average around 1.2MB each. With
presumably some of them being downloaded more than a trivial number of
Pieter and I briefly discussed using GitHub Releases:
along with a custom binary which was whatever tarball, binary, etc, had
been built. From what I could tell from a quick look this is plausible
without cost (for an open source project), at least under 1GB total
(https://help.github.com/articles/what-is-my-disk-quota/) and maybe
larger if they're explicitly attached to releases
then seem to get stored outside the git archive itself.
But (a) there's a "technical debt" of uploading 160 files (with 1-2
files per release), and (b) there aren't even any tags on the
zeromq/libzmq repository AFAICT, so there's also the technical debt of
figuring out where all these files should "attach" (ie, what's the
I'm explicitly _not_ volunteering to spend the time figuring out where
all these tags belong, and releases should be created/uploaded. But
I can, eg, provide someone with a list of URLs to download all the files
from download.zeromq.org if they were to volunteer to do this.
There's an API to automate some of it:
but that also requires a git commit ID to attach each release/set of
files to... which I suspect is the hard part to figure out.
Alternatively, other ideas for where to store the downloads that don't
rely on iMatix/Pieter would be a good idea. Before the next release is
 My "software archaeology" time has been going into:
(there's still a couple of pieces to convert over to GitHub, but the
imatix-legacy.github.io one is now close to replicating the early 2000
iMatix website, with the source for everything at
github.com/imatix-legacy/ in at least a "human reviewable" form.)
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