[zeromq-dev] proper way to handle messages with c structures

Andrew Simpson simpsonar77 at yahoo.com
Fri Jul 10 04:27:36 CEST 2015

Understood completely.  I actually already do serialization in the application.  (I'm even in the process of converting over to google protobufs as you mentioned).
Also, my limited examples were a little lazy.  I declare ints as uint32, etc...
My bigger question is what is the proper way to invoke zmq when using structs?  Using higher level calls like zmq_send or zmq_recv?  or by working with the lowest level zmq functions/frames/etc...?

     On Thursday, July 9, 2015 5:52 PM, Jens Auer <jens.auer at betaversion.net> wrote:

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Gesendet: Donnerstag, 9. Juli 2015 22:17
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Betreff: [zeromq-dev] proper way to handle messages with c structures  I am modifying an existing application to use ZMQ to send/receive the data.  The application is written in C on RHEL 6.6, using ZMQ 4.0.5.  I am using router-dealer socket types.  I do have the messages coming through right now, but I do not think I am doing this in the best possible way:  The application consists of a "server" and multiple "client" applications.  These are separate binaries, not threads.  I am setting the ID on the Dealer socket for each client application.  A message containing a C structure is passed from the client to the server.    An example C struct that I use:  struct InitMsg {  char myName[10];  int myUUID;  int someVar;  short someOtherVar;};    The Client is the Dealer, server is the router socket.  METHOD 1:Client sends the message: zmq_send(serverSocket, &InitMsg, sizeof(InitMsg), 0);  On the server side, I do the following:1.  zmq_recv once to get the ID of the client2.  call a second zmq_recv to get the message from the client.  while the above seems to be working, It seems that I should be using something more like:METHOD 2:client:zmq_msg_t newMsg;zmq_msg_init (&newMsg);zmq_msg_copy (&newMsg, &InitMsg);zmq_msg_send (&newMsg, serverSocket, 0);  server:  zmq_msg_t *msg;zmq_msg_init(&msg);zmq_msg_recv(&msg, clientSocket, 0);    I'm looking for a recommendation about the best/most efficient way to handle sending/receiving c structures and I've gotten a little confused about everything :(  There appears to be many ways to do this.  I have no problem working directly with zmq objects/frames, etc... but if zmq_recv.zmq_send is just as efficient, I'm fine with it.  A few additional questions: 1. After reading the guide and examples, does the second method above handle getting the id, delimiter, and the message all in one?  2. Am I correct in that a router/dealer pattern, that the send is always: ID, delimiter, message?  Thanks for all your help.  Drew      
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