[zeromq-dev] CZMQ community & red cards

Arnaud Kapp kapp.arno at gmail.com
Fri Oct 17 04:09:18 CEST 2014

Hello everyone,

It seems I am a bit late but here is what I think.
I'm a bit sad that the discussed thread lead to this. I know discussion
have been heated recently and it would've been great if it were avoided.
But hey, it happens.

On the particular pull request I agree that it could have been worded
better, however this is somehow a false problem: when reviewing pull
request one's look at all the commit and the whole diff before merging.
If you want to take a quick look at what a PR changes, I think one should
look at the individual commit messages.

I also happen to group not-so-much related stuff into pull request so I may
be biased.

About the code change itself, I am not familiar enough with czmq (I mostly
write C++, dont' hate me :) ) to discuss the "store as ascii" but would
like to point out that in zmqpp we store integer in network byte order for
our push/pop functions. Maybe this is worth discussing (for consistency
reason), but this particular mail thread is probably the wrong place.

On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 1:16 AM, Pieter Hintjens <ph at imatix.com> wrote:

> On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 6:30 PM, Goswin von Brederlow <goswin-v-b at web.de>
> wrote:
> > That is something the czmq maintainers are exceedingly bad at.
> Citation needed. You make exceedingly bad patches. Probably the worst
> I've seen from anyone in this community, and you have the audacity and
> nerve to blame other people for that. Thankfully your patches are on
> permanent record and part of CZMQ's history. This is the reason I
> merge them. Permanent record.
> >. One problem, one patch, one pull
> > request. Not two unrelated problems in a single pull request.
> Citation needed. This is not specified in C4.1. Github does not work
> like that. We have never worked like that. You are inventing a rule to
> suit your style of working, and then (since you apparently do not like
> reading the rules) imagining it into reality.
> You have not accepted any criticism at all. You show no regret, or
> apology. Indeed, you deflect and blame others for your disturbing lack
> of social awareness. Whether your intention is to deliberately create
> damage and stress, or whether this is unintentional, does not matter.
> Outcomes matter, and the outcome here is that your contributions are
> not worth the difficulty of dealing with you.
> It is clear from your behavior, which now includes brigading our
> forums with strangers who have no status here, that you will continue
> on this path until either we submit to your bullying, or we eject you
> by force. You are not as unique as you might think, and your behavior
> is both familiar and predictable.
> This community is not aggressive, but I will be, when people like you
> threaten the peaceful and constructive process we have built. I think
> it has been a few years since I had to do this, so consider yourself
> "special". You can put this onto your CV.
> **You are as of now banned from this list, from CZMQ and all other
> projects I'm a founder of.**
> So decided, so executed.
> -Pieter
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Kapp Arnaud - Xaqq
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