[zeromq-dev] An interesting use-case for EdgeNet : Asynchronous IRC?

[Lindley French]

As far as async twitter goes, it isn't a public product. It was a sample
application to demonstrate the merits of DARPA CBMEN technology.


On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 12:53 AM, Lindley French <lindleyf at gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks for the offer but that probably isn't a great way to debug. I may
> be getting an Android device in a month or so.
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 1, 2014 at 9:02 PM, crocket <crockabiscuit at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> "Sent from my iPhone" tells you have an iPhone.
>> Do you need to buy an android device? I already have nexus 7 and just
>> ordered a nexus 5 yesterday.
>> I can test your programs if you give .apk to me or upload your app to
>> play store.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 7:14 AM, Lindley French <lindleyf at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Maybe. I have some practical experience but I don't have an Android
>>> device right now, and the emulators don't behave exactly like the devices
>>> in all cases.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> > On Jan 1, 2014, at 4:37 PM, Pieter Hintjens <ph at imatix.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Lindley, would you be able to help get Zyre et all working on Android?
>>> >
>>> >> On Wed, Jan 1, 2014 at 8:44 PM, Lindley French <lindleyf at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >> Oh---and some network functionality shuts down on Android when the
>>> device is
>>> >> inactive if you don't take the appropriate lock. This is a critical
>>> >> consideration when designing edge networking services.
>>> >>
>>> >> On Jan 1, 2014, at 1:17 PM, Lindley French <lindleyf at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> On Android at least, if you have any trouble with UDP broadcast or
>>> >> multicast, you should trying using the IPv6 all-hosts address.
>>> Android's
>>> >> built-in filtering doesn't seem to affect IPv6 the same way as IPv4.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> On Wed, Jan 1, 2014 at 12:10 AM, Sean Robertson <
>>> sprobertson at gmail.com>
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I have something like this in the works, in the form of an iOS
>>> application
>>> >>> that I hope to soon port to Android. It doesn't properly use Zyre
>>> but rather
>>> >>> my own haphazard  reimplementation, due to some silliness with
>>> Apple's UDP
>>> >>> broadcast (https://github.com/zeromq/czmq/issues/297). The UI works
>>> decently
>>> >>> though. I'll send the code to this list later this week.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>> On Dec 31, 2013 6:38 PM, "Lindley French" <lindleyf at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Asych twitter is a good idea and will work well. I've seen it done.
>>> >>>> Another fun application is async push to talk.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> On Dec 31, 2013, at 9:32 PM, crocket <crockabiscuit at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> May asynchronous twitter be more appropriate for my idea?
>>> >>>> Asynchronous twitter, asynchronous IRC, whatever.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>> On Wed, Jan 1, 2014 at 11:19 AM, crocket <crockabiscuit at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> With asynchronous IRC software, you can choose your nickname and a
>>> >>>>> topic.
>>> >>>>> You send messages that belong to a topic.
>>> >>>>> People who subscribed to that topic receive your message.
>>> >>>>> Or they might choose to receive messages from every topic.
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> This becomes very interesting when population density goes up very
>>> high
>>> >>>>> in a small area.
>>> >>>>> Imagine that you went to comiket. Wikipedia says "Comiket (コミケット
>>> >>>>> Komiketto?), otherwise known as the Comic Market (コミックマーケット Komikku
>>> >>>>> Māketto?), is the world's largest dōjinshi fair, held twice a year
>>> in Tokyo,
>>> >>>>> Japan."
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> ~590,000 people attended comiket last summer. It basically looks
>>> like
>>> >>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Comiket77.jpg
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> With hundreds of thousands of people in a small area, asynchronous
>>> IRC
>>> >>>>> becomes fun.
>>> >>>>> Not as fun as the near-synchronous one we have now, but still.
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> I think asynchronous IRC may entice people to adopt EdgeNet
>>> starting
>>> >>>>> from big meetups.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
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