[zeromq-dev] An interesting use-case for EdgeNet : Asynchronous IRC?

Lindley French lindleyf at gmail.com
Thu Jan 2 06:53:53 CET 2014


Thanks for the offer but that probably isn't a great way to debug. I may be
getting an Android device in a month or so.


On Wed, Jan 1, 2014 at 9:02 PM, crocket <crockabiscuit at gmail.com> wrote:

> "Sent from my iPhone" tells you have an iPhone.
> Do you need to buy an android device? I already have nexus 7 and just
> ordered a nexus 5 yesterday.
> I can test your programs if you give .apk to me or upload your app to play
> store.
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 7:14 AM, Lindley French <lindleyf at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Maybe. I have some practical experience but I don't have an Android
>> device right now, and the emulators don't behave exactly like the devices
>> in all cases.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> > On Jan 1, 2014, at 4:37 PM, Pieter Hintjens <ph at imatix.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > Lindley, would you be able to help get Zyre et all working on Android?
>> >
>> >> On Wed, Jan 1, 2014 at 8:44 PM, Lindley French <lindleyf at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >> Oh---and some network functionality shuts down on Android when the
>> device is
>> >> inactive if you don't take the appropriate lock. This is a critical
>> >> consideration when designing edge networking services.
>> >>
>> >> On Jan 1, 2014, at 1:17 PM, Lindley French <lindleyf at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On Android at least, if you have any trouble with UDP broadcast or
>> >> multicast, you should trying using the IPv6 all-hosts address.
>> Android's
>> >> built-in filtering doesn't seem to affect IPv6 the same way as IPv4.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, Jan 1, 2014 at 12:10 AM, Sean Robertson <sprobertson at gmail.com
>> >
>> >> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> I have something like this in the works, in the form of an iOS
>> application
>> >>> that I hope to soon port to Android. It doesn't properly use Zyre but
>> rather
>> >>> my own haphazard  reimplementation, due to some silliness with
>> Apple's UDP
>> >>> broadcast (https://github.com/zeromq/czmq/issues/297). The UI works
>> decently
>> >>> though. I'll send the code to this list later this week.
>> >>>
>> >>>> On Dec 31, 2013 6:38 PM, "Lindley French" <lindleyf at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Asych twitter is a good idea and will work well. I've seen it done.
>> >>>> Another fun application is async push to talk.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Dec 31, 2013, at 9:32 PM, crocket <crockabiscuit at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> May asynchronous twitter be more appropriate for my idea?
>> >>>> Asynchronous twitter, asynchronous IRC, whatever.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> On Wed, Jan 1, 2014 at 11:19 AM, crocket <crockabiscuit at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> With asynchronous IRC software, you can choose your nickname and a
>> >>>>> topic.
>> >>>>> You send messages that belong to a topic.
>> >>>>> People who subscribed to that topic receive your message.
>> >>>>> Or they might choose to receive messages from every topic.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> This becomes very interesting when population density goes up very
>> high
>> >>>>> in a small area.
>> >>>>> Imagine that you went to comiket. Wikipedia says "Comiket (コミケット
>> >>>>> Komiketto?), otherwise known as the Comic Market (コミックマーケット Komikku
>> >>>>> Māketto?), is the world's largest dōjinshi fair, held twice a year
>> in Tokyo,
>> >>>>> Japan."
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> ~590,000 people attended comiket last summer. It basically looks
>> like
>> >>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Comiket77.jpg
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> With hundreds of thousands of people in a small area, asynchronous
>> IRC
>> >>>>> becomes fun.
>> >>>>> Not as fun as the near-synchronous one we have now, but still.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> I think asynchronous IRC may entice people to adopt EdgeNet starting
>> >>>>> from big meetups.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
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