[zeromq-dev] Google Summer of Code 2014

[Michel Pelletier]

I have to agree with Pieter.  GSOC is a recriting tool for google.  They
are paying students a pittence to see who among the hoard of respondents
rises above the rest so they can court the tiny fraction of those with
merit before any other companies.  They offload the cost of vetting those
candidates onto open source projects, and some projects happily absorb that
cost and percieve benefit.  Other projects end up with the duds, or worse,
"students" who simply want the money.

If a "student" or anyone else has the skill to state a problem, get
consensus around a solution, and submit a patch, then they'll simply do
it.  There's no cost of entry or minimum education requirements to
participate in 0mq.  Those with merit don't need google and they don't need
us.  They can demand a good job by proving their merit in the form of
merged changesets used in a production environment by thousands of
different organizations.  More and more companies I talk to looking for
coders are more interested in your github history than your resume.

-Michel
On Dec 30, 2013 6:20 PM, "Pieter Hintjens" <ph at imatix.com> wrote:

> On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 10:07 AM, Bjorn Reese <breese at mail1.stofanet.dk>
> wrote:
>
> > So what part of Google paying students and mentors to work on ZeroMQ
> > projects do you dislike?
>
> Specifically, I think it's a distortion of the natural economies of the
> project.
>
> It is a delicate process to decide what problems are really worth
> solving. Throwing money into the process when that money isn't backed
> by business needs is IMO counterproductive.
>
> If Google was using ZeroMQ and contributing patches, that would be
> awesome. Would they however pay *students* to make patches to code
> they were using in production? Ahem... And if not, why is paying
> students to make patches to code *other* people use in production OK?
>
> You can take our C4 contribution process and match it against
> paying-students-to-code-for-cash events and see the disharmony. C4 was
> born from trench warfare rather than ideology.
>
> That's my view based on current data. i'm not married to it and more
> than happy to be proven wrong.
>
> -Pieter
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