[zeromq-dev] Some questions about EdgeNet.
Pieter Hintjens
ph at imatix.com
Sat Dec 21 12:28:12 CET 2013
Hmm, interesting. Maybe we should apply to DARPA for a grant :-)
Seriously, though, it seems a compelling use case for civilian
smartphone infrastructure. At this stage if there are any Android devs
who can lend a hand, that would be most welcome.
On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 4:01 PM, Lindley French <lindleyf at gmail.com> wrote:
> I read the EdgeNet article. It's remarkably similar to concepts we developed
> on a DARPA program I worked last year, although the motivation was different
> (improving tactical awareness for soldiers with no or slow comms
> infrastructure).
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 3:23 AM, Pieter Hintjens <ph at imatix.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Sean,
>>
>> There's no specific forum yet. Mostly I've been spreading the idea
>> that we have a real problem, and that we can solve it using what we've
>> learned from ZeroMQ. It seems to me that people need to dream first,
>> as you say, before we move to work together.
>>
>> Why not start a forum, a mailing list, a wiki, or something? Perhaps
>> even a Google group, or IRC channel? You would be taking a concrete
>> step.
>>
>> I've used Wikidot in the past with good results. We might also use
>> GitHub issues as a forum. Perhaps a github.com/edgenet/discuss
>> project?
>>
>> What do you think?
>>
>> -Pieter
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 3:21 AM, Sean Robertson <sprobertson at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > Is there a place for discussion specific to Edgenet? I too just
>> > finished reading Culture and Empire and the Edgenet proposal, and have
>> > been dreaming of asynchronous mesh networks ever since.
>> >
>> > On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 4:39 AM, Pieter Hintjens <ph at imatix.com> wrote:
>> >> On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 4:51 AM, crocket <crockabiscuit at gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> 2) Some smartphones act as WiFi hotspots, and other smartphones
>> >>> connect to
>> >>> them.
>> >>
>> >> Yes, this is the idea. We've tested this previously, it works more or
>> >> less well enough. Right now it will still require manual coordination.
>> >>
>> >>> If EdgeNet doesn't depend on IP addresses, destination could be
>> >>> specified by
>> >>> public key.
>> >>
>> >> If you need destinations, yes. The initial use case is UUCP-style
>> >> broadcast. Anonymous sharing.
>> >>
>> >>> My guess would be that people will use broadband internet for public
>> >>> communications
>> >>> and that they will use EdgeNet or other darknets for private/sensitive
>> >>> communications.
>> >>
>> >> That's right.
>> >>
>> >> -Pieter
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