[zeromq-dev] HA: I lost a bet

Martin Hurton hurtonm at gmail.com
Wed Apr 25 22:48:31 CEST 2012


nice idea :)

On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 7:48 PM, Michel Pelletier
<pelletier.michel at gmail.com> wrote:
> Ok here's a crazy suggestion.  I think what would work really well is
> a sort of advanced 0mq boot camp.  There are obviously highly skilled
> engineers in our community who could easily take up some of
> understanding that until now was contained in only one or two people's
> heads.
>
> I would love to get a high level overview of the various internal
> parts of the library, the moving pieces, the internal interface
> points, the memory allocators, and the critical structures.  I've done
> code analysis but without context it gets hard to see the big picture.
>  I'd be willing to fund my own travel and lodging to a central place
> where we can get together and do this.
>
> I should note that unlike the conference event or meetups, I'm
> speaking specifically of focusing on core code details.  A proficiency
> in engineering and C++ would be required, as well as up-to-date
> knowledge of the current 0mq 3 API including all socket types and
> functions.  I don't want to exclude anyone, but time would be wasted
> answering questions like "what is pub/sub?"  We'll save that for next
> year's conference.
>
> Any takers?
>
> -Michel
>
> On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 9:43 AM, Pieter Hintjens <ph at imatix.com> wrote:
>> On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 6:20 PM, Sergey Hripchenko
>> <shripchenko at intermedia.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Sorry to touch these sensitive things, but just wanted to comment that still you will need someone to be an architect and to know the deepest ZMQ implementation details.
>>> The most valuable help for my commits was from Martin off the list.
>>>
>>> I found some issues with ZMQ and still don't know whom to ask/talk about it.
>>
>> Sergey, the only way these things can work is that people like
>> yourself with the talent learn from those like Martin with the
>> knowledge. If it's too hard to learn, or there are barriers, then that
>> knowledge remains in one person's mind (which has been our story up to
>> now). Which is not safe or sustainable.
>>
>> Spreading the core knowledge is one goal I think we can agree on.
>> Having a wider set of contributors also means we focus on the right
>> problems and do them better (like your unbind/disconnect work).
>>
>> -Pieter
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