[zeromq-dev] HA: HA: I lost a bet

Brian Smith brian at linuxfood.net
Wed Apr 25 21:25:40 CEST 2012


I would be very interested in such a thing.

It's a shame that the Chicago meetup is just a week before I plan to be
there!

-B

2012/4/25 Michel Pelletier <pelletier.michel at gmail.com>

> On further thought maybe this is a good discussion topic for the
> Chicago meetup?  I didn't realize it was going down until the
> announcement just now.  (I just bought my ticket!)
>
> -Michel
>
> 2012/4/25 Sergey Hripchenko <shripchenko at intermedia.net>:
> > And make a video of course for later viewing
> >
> > ________________________________________
> > От: zeromq-dev-bounces at lists.zeromq.org [
> zeromq-dev-bounces at lists.zeromq.org] от имени William Brown [
> william.brown at ericsson.com]
> > Отправлено: 25 апреля 2012 г. 22:01
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> > Тема: Re: [zeromq-dev] HA: I lost a bet
> >
> >        I would be interested in this.
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: zeromq-dev-bounces at lists.zeromq.org [mailto:
> zeromq-dev-bounces at lists.zeromq.org] On Behalf Of Michel Pelletier
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 1:48 PM
> > To: ZeroMQ development list
> > Subject: Re: [zeromq-dev] HA: I lost a bet
> >
> > Ok here's a crazy suggestion.  I think what would work really well is a
> sort of advanced 0mq boot camp.  There are obviously highly skilled
> engineers in our community who could easily take up some of understanding
> that until now was contained in only one or two people's heads.
> >
> > I would love to get a high level overview of the various internal parts
> of the library, the moving pieces, the internal interface points, the
> memory allocators, and the critical structures.  I've done code analysis
> but without context it gets hard to see the big picture.
> >  I'd be willing to fund my own travel and lodging to a central place
> where we can get together and do this.
> >
> > I should note that unlike the conference event or meetups, I'm speaking
> specifically of focusing on core code details.  A proficiency in
> engineering and C++ would be required, as well as up-to-date knowledge of
> the current 0mq 3 API including all socket types and functions.  I don't
> want to exclude anyone, but time would be wasted answering questions like
> "what is pub/sub?"  We'll save that for next year's conference.
> >
> > Any takers?
> >
> > -Michel
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 9:43 AM, Pieter Hintjens <ph at imatix.com> wrote:
> >> On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 6:20 PM, Sergey Hripchenko
> >> <shripchenko at intermedia.net> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Sorry to touch these sensitive things, but just wanted to comment that
> still you will need someone to be an architect and to know the deepest ZMQ
> implementation details.
> >>> The most valuable help for my commits was from Martin off the list.
> >>>
> >>> I found some issues with ZMQ and still don't know whom to ask/talk
> about it.
> >>
> >> Sergey, the only way these things can work is that people like
> >> yourself with the talent learn from those like Martin with the
> >> knowledge. If it's too hard to learn, or there are barriers, then that
> >> knowledge remains in one person's mind (which has been our story up to
> >> now). Which is not safe or sustainable.
> >>
> >> Spreading the core knowledge is one goal I think we can agree on.
> >> Having a wider set of contributors also means we focus on the right
> >> problems and do them better (like your unbind/disconnect work).
> >>
> >> -Pieter
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