[zeromq-dev] Debian package / small manpage issue
Adrian von Bidder
avbidder at fortytwo.ch
Fri Jan 22 09:08:32 CET 2010
On Thursday 21 January 2010 21.54:40 Peter Busser wrote:
> > As stated above, I started working off the tarball and haven't looked
> > at what you are doing. I think I'll continue in this mode for now,
> > incorporating Peter's work where I was missing stuff, until I get to a
> > state where I can upload a first package. Since openpgm isn't in
> > Debian yet, eitther, this will probably take some time.
> I don't understand what good it will do to waste time and energy by
> reinventing the wheel instead of improving what is already there.
Ok, I have now looked at your packaging stuff - I thought you had only C/C++
and CL done. (I worked offline most of the time, so I couldn't immediately
look at your work and instead of waiting I worked on my version of the
For future work: are you planning to become Debian maintainer of zeromq
packages, do you want to share the work with me, or was your work a one-off
to get initial packages? I don't want to hijack your efforts and tread on
> The current packages/debian builds the following packages:
Is this package useful in any way? I think it'd be better to ship the
example (in source only) in the -dev package in /usr/share/doc/example.
If perf is only very small, I think it could be merged with -utils. I think
having too many packages for only a few files is not actually useful (people
who really need to save the space, like for example embedded folks, usually
use stripped down versions of everything anyway.)
> And openpgm is included in the ZeroMQ source tarball, it is located
> in: ./foreign/openpgm/libpgm-2.0.20rc5.tar.bz2
I saw that, but including stuff like that is terrible for [long term]
security support. As long as nobody else uses openpgm it's no problem, but
as soon as there are other users, bugs in openpgm will have to be fixed
(For illustration: xpdf used to be included in many other packages because
there was no library before poppler was created. If the security team had
to fix a bug in xpdf, it had to hunt down all these embedded xpdf copies --
often at different versions, too -- and patch them and release them
OTOH: I had a very quick look at the openpgm tarball, and didn't like it
very much. There are no installation instructions, and there seem to be 2
build systems (scons and cmake - or do they interact?). Also, openpgm seems
to be statically linked in zeromq in any case. So, for now, I guess I'll
just leave that and use what's included with zeromq.
Frija (free' ya) was the wife sneeze of Woden and the queen count of
the spread gods.
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